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Hard drive Transfer feature.

Idea 4166 | Posted in , by | March 18, 2010

Should allow us to transfer our hard drive to a new ps3 unit in case that your old ps3 unit no longer is operating. This feature would keep your data even if you place the hard drive on a new ps3.

 

32 Comments

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YoYo-Pete  |  March 18th, 2010 at 1:35 pm

The problem is due to piracy… What really needs to be done is to allow the save game stuff to be put on a FAT partition so that when the device fails, you can still recover your saves and what not. I guess the same would be nice for music.

I understand the JFS architecture prevents folks from stealing games, but it also basically means you’ve lost everything if your PS3 dies for an reason, even if hard drive is intact.

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fatalis_  |  March 18th, 2010 at 1:59 pm

Sorry, i might be wrong, but isnt your idea also known as Backup Utility?

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rogXue  |  March 18th, 2010 at 2:31 pm

yeah doesn’t the ps3 already do this? oh wait I did this so yeah it does…

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tomstockmail  |  March 18th, 2010 at 3:22 pm

Yeah, the PS3 does this. It’s the backup utility…

I’m amazed at the amount of already-in-PS3 features being requested. Youtube, multiple logins, hard drive backups, usb stick game saves etc

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fane1024  |  March 18th, 2010 at 6:40 pm

Some of you missed the point. While you can use the backup utility to restore data to the same PS3, even onto a different HDD, you cannot use it to move data to another PS3 (rightfully so), which means that you can’t recover (all) data from a dead PS3 onto a replacement system.

You can use the new transfer utility to move all data from one PS3 to another, but they both have to be functional.

chriz704 wants to be able to move his dead PS3′s HDD into another PS3 without having to format it and lose all his data.

I’m amazed at how many people criticize ideas without actually reading them carefully. ;)

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chriz704  |  March 18th, 2010 at 11:22 pm

Like fane1024 said “chriz704 wants to be able to move his dead PS3’s HDD into another PS3 without having to format it and lose all his data.” Ty very much for this fane1024. Piracy won’t be much of an issue, trust me they can find a way on how to pertect it from being on taken on a pc and they can always perfect it with your psn so it can’t be changed.

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chriz704  |  March 18th, 2010 at 11:49 pm

I believe everyone should vote for this because when your ps3 dies you will need to re download everything but with this feature you just put in your old hard drive onto the new one and you are all set. I really want this feature I don’t want my ps3 to die and then I have to start all over on all my games and re download all the content and re purchase all my movies. This is a must feature.

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CrayzeeCarl  |  March 19th, 2010 at 12:58 pm

I really don’t think this is even possible unless they remove the hard drive encryption (never going to happen). You can’t decrypt the old hard drive without the encryption key from the old system and you can’t get the key if the system doesn’t work.

Sorry, I just don’t think this is possible.

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CrayzeeCarl  |  March 19th, 2010 at 12:59 pm

I wish I could edit my last post. The only way I can see this being possible is if you have the option to tie your hard drive to a PSN account instead of the system. Then that would make this possible while avoiding security/piracy issues.

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skywalker6705  |  March 19th, 2010 at 1:54 pm

Unless there is a way to link to store the HD decryption key on the PSN, this is impossible since the key would be lost with the broken PS3. If this is implemented, Sony would be taking a huge risk in transmitting that key, as it would expose the key to network traffic, and allow hard drives to be decrypted were it obtained by hackers/modders.

Do remember however that this same key protects your local content and information on the system, so keeping it secure is in your own best interest.

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chriz704  |  March 19th, 2010 at 3:32 pm

Yes but sony can implement this feature with a firmware update so it is posible. Its simple when your old ps3 brakes you sign in the website and get a new key then go back to your ps3 sign in with the account with the new key and you are all set up. For this feature you probably would require the psn key and the ps3 key both must be changed. again sony can do this.

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DarthSpooky  |  March 22nd, 2010 at 7:54 am

Oh I not, why doesn’t Sony do it however Microsoft does it.

…You know cause MICROSOFT DOES IT.

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BoredUltimatum  |  March 22nd, 2010 at 11:40 am

The sad part is that we won’t see this on account of ‘piracy.’ Instead, it will have to be done by someone with enough time to make a work-around. My thought is to take several different PS3′s and have the same exact information saved to a drive. That is, take PS3 #1 and create the local account of ‘A’, the PSN account of ‘B’ linked to it, and a download of ‘C’ stored. Create full sector disk images of the HDD then repeat with PS3 #2. After a few images are made, brute force to try and find the key then an easy method of finding the key for users later. Then users just take their old PS3 drive, create an image from it, feed it to this program that will figure out the key, decrypt the ‘drive’ (image) into a new image for the new PS3 then users write that onto the HDD. This would be a massive pain in the butt even to just the end-user though. But I doubt Sony will do anything on account of ‘piracy.’

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Frdrdneck  |  March 23rd, 2010 at 10:57 am

BACKUP?? Been there done that. Explain to me then how do I backup my system, that just YLOD on me? Hmmmm. Tell me? How do I get back 50 hours of FFXIII? See that’s why some other way of backing up, or transfering files from the HDD needs to be created. I back mine up about once a month, it takes 1.5-2 hours each time. Game saves should be a non issue as far as DRM goes, just add a line of code that locks it to a specific PSN name so it can’t be pirated. Then let us quickly rip them from the HDD of a dead system to an external source and then back again to the new system.

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chriz704  |  March 23rd, 2010 at 3:19 pm

Yup how is he suppose to back up is data once his ps3 is dead? This feature is mandatory I don’t know why people are not voting for it it’s a must.

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Techni  |  March 26th, 2010 at 2:27 pm

“Piracy won’t be much of an issue”

Yes it is. That’s why Sony doesn’t allow it. People can just ghost drives

“…You know cause MICROSOFT DOES IT.”

Because MS uses proprietary harddrives that are harder to ghost. Sony uses non-proprietary harddrives

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DarthSpooky  |  March 26th, 2010 at 4:05 pm

Piracy is only an issue because they choose to make it an issue. You can already get those movies on the internet, you can already get those games via game-sharing. They need to wake up and realize, the harder you try to hang on to content, the harder people are going to try to steal it. More DRM begets more piracy, ever time.

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ph3ng_83  |  March 27th, 2010 at 8:04 am

I understand the whole thing about DRM and piracy etc. But I think
the way our data/HDD is being managed here is a tad silly. I cannot help
but think and feel that the whole “..due to piracy..etc etc” is just
an excuse.

Reason I say this: The Xbox360 implements the data transfer feature just fine.
Perhaps not the best but definitely better than what we are getting from the ps3.

The whole data transfer via ethernet is great but is greatly handicapped. I basically
need 2 working ps3s for that feature to work. Let me illustrate how silly that notion
is from a ‘normal’ consumer’s perspective.

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ph3ng_83  |  March 27th, 2010 at 8:04 am

Say if my PS3 is dead – YLOD. I can’t get data in or out of the unit. If I had
backed up my PS3 via USB I would only get back some portions of it – due to all the DRM,
locked saves etc. But not to worry, I can use the ethernet data trasnfer utility. Great!
I just need to fix my current PS3 for $AUD 315. Go out and buy a new PS3 slim $450. And I
should be good! But no actually guess what that wouldn’t work too! Why? Cos Sony wipes my HDD
if I get them to fix the broken ps3. How silly is that? Not everyone is loaded to buy a 2nd ps3
and have 2 working ps3 in the house!

Sony, if MS can provide a hdd only transfer – last I recall they have multiplayer games
and achievements too amongst other things – I am sure you can do better.

At this stage your with your super console, it’s like you’ve taken one step forward with giving the
data transfer via ethernet feature but taken 2 steps back in terms of practicality in the real world.
Surely you are better than that.

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valleyshrew  |  April 4th, 2010 at 1:39 am

Here’s the best solution guys:
When your ps3 breaks and you get a new one, put in your old hard-drive and up comes a menu:
Would you like to format or backup your old save files?

You can then backup the save files that were on the dead ps3′s hard-drive to an external, and format afterwards. No problem with piracy.

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chriz704  |  April 5th, 2010 at 5:01 am

That is not a great solution. Why would it need to back up your stuff and then format it so you can bring back your stuff? If Sony allows that then most likely they would add this feature since they both have something to do with switching the hard drive from old to new.

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Allyn71  |  June 21st, 2010 at 1:19 pm

We should never be at risk of loosing hours of game play due to a lack of a realistic back up option, especially after having spent as much money as many of us have, and many of us being faithful Sony supporters. i should even be able to clone my PS3′s (having more than one) and keep ALL! yeah ALL! of my stuff. I paid for the systems! I want a back up. Were there is a will there is a way, Sony can do it. Hardcore gamer or not who wants to loos there data!

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StickyJr  |  August 19th, 2010 at 3:06 pm

What good are gave saves if the player doesn’t have control over how they are saved?

I’ve had my original 60GB PS3 and the refurb replacement 60GB PS3 both go YLOD on me in just over two years since I first bought the system. I’ve lost hundreds of hours of gameplay on a number of games.

At this point, I’m pretty much resigned to the fact that the second refurb unit is going to kick the bucket it at some point in the not-too-distant-future too.

Ultimately, I’m disappointed that because some people will pirate games, all owners were put in lockdown with extremely limited recovery options available to them. Sony decided that making the experience good for people who are actively paying for their gaming experince was less important than stopping the people who steal from them.

I own over 100 Playstation branded games, and over 40 of them are for the PS3. I guess I just feel a bit underappreciated for my dedicated Sony gaming habit.

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chriz704  |  August 30th, 2010 at 10:28 pm

I know this feature should be a must, even over some of the highest rated feature. I rather have my content protected and able to pass it on in case of a damaged ps3 than have all the features. I just wonder why don’t people vote this up? Don’t they want this feature available? This feature won’t encourage piracy since there could be other ways to implement this feature.

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NeroMustDie16  |  September 12th, 2010 at 5:02 pm

The original YoYo-Pete comment seems best to me. SCE would get to keep their precious encryption for “sensitive” things, and I would get to have my saves on a recoverable partition. I’m sure SCE’s programmers are good enough at their jobs to have a program to automatically (and carefully) re-size the partitions as needed.

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Tommo14  |  September 19th, 2010 at 6:40 pm

I am currently in the same situation. My PS3 has been repaired twice already by a third party company. They wont fix it again and say they can only attempt to repair it a couple of times and I need to upgrade to a slim model. Think they heat gun the back of the motherboard as some of the chips have dry joints. Anyhow the hard drive in the unit is 500gb and all that data is now lost. All my pictures, music and film lost…..There has to be a way to get this back :( My own fault for not backing up I guess, yet I dont have a spare 500gb to backup too!

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Syckie  |  January 7th, 2011 at 10:04 am

I had my fat PS3 for nearly 4years and upgraded to a 500gb hardrive 6mnths ago and it died on me lastnite, I have bought a ps3 slim put the old hardrive in it and it wont recognise it, I have got LOADS of game saves I dont want to lose, there must be a way to get in the hardrive and get the data out and out it on the new hard drive, or you should be able to slot the old one in and your rady to go. I really hate Sony as I have been faithful since PS1 to PS2 and now PS3 !!! So you know I am a games man from the UK. Not HAPPY SONY !!! Somebody HELP !!!

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chriz704  |  March 16th, 2011 at 1:08 pm

Vote this up Syckie! I wan’t this feature to!
We all need it, I still don’t understand why would it be down voted -_-


Chris

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Daz_Genetic  |  July 27th, 2011 at 1:44 pm

Recently lost my Original 60GB to the YLOD. Attempted repair, but was not one of the “lucky” ones.

People are downvoting because they do not fully understand the limitations of the current backup/restore system. For me, a backup took 2+ hours, but the restore to a different machine took about 20 seconds. This is because all it did was copy the non-copy protected save games and little else.

I was actually pretty good about backing my stuff up. I copied my savegames to an SD card regularly, and I backed up the full system about once every 3 months or so. I did not believe that I would be stuck re-downloading everything from the store again.

I’m not really playing any of the games I have that are limited by a copy-protected savegame, but I could see how that would be pretty annoying. And that’s not even mentioning games like LittleBigPlanet that don’t even save your game into the game saves location. They store all your stuff in Game Data. So unless you remember to export your profile and back that up, you are SOL.

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Daz_Genetic  |  July 27th, 2011 at 1:45 pm

Actually, I don’t fully understand why so much content is copy-protected in a way that can’t be restored, since without the system being activated on the PSN, most of it would be useless. Even files that can be copied and transfered via external media such as videos from the store, refuse to be restored because of copy-protection. This is not about piracy, this is a case of lack of foresight.

There has to be a better way.

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jose_reyes129  |  August 11th, 2011 at 5:55 am

they made data safer by adding the feature of saving it to psn plus. to the price of a membership. so basically u have to pay to get ur game saves secure in ur psn plus. if u ask me thats bs also. u should not have to pay to get ur game saves hold for u and not lose them. i vote for what everyone here is voting for, cus i also had a ylod ps3 and still holding on to my hard drive cus i want my data. but also i cant use it for anything else if i need to cus of that. so i agree that playstation needs to come up with an idea so that we can recover that data and be able to use it again. theres a lot of faithful gamers pissed because of this particular problem as i have researched for hours and days for a solution to this problem and came up were i started, with nothing.

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sean9851  |  March 1st, 2013 at 5:51 pm

Here here jose_reyes129, lost my GT5 garage after YLOD, not happy with Sony.